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James's avatar

Great article as always Norman!

This topic is actually very complex and could use a very long or multiple essays.

I think it's important to separate out jock/jocks mindset/jock culture from exercise/sports.

The real issue is jock mindset/jock culture. Obviously separating that from sports and exercise can be tricky but in simplistic terms the issues many of us had and likely still have is with the jock mindset/culture. This to me even infected some of the 90's hardcore and I contend even helped create emocore/emo as a way to further distance oneself from this way of thinking.

I think the emphasis on intellectual activities is important as the typical jock mindset is anti-intellectual. They are also very much for the status quo and conformity which should be the antithesis of punk.

So sports and maybe move importantly exceercize and working on one's physical body is a great thing. We should all probably do more of it for all the reasons you list. But we can do so without accepting or embracing the jock mindset/jock culture. I've personally never enjoyed it and think on the whole it's toxic. And to be clear, yes I've played organized sports both in school (thru college) and as an adult. I never enjoyed spending time with any of these people other than within the sport activity.

You could write an entire essay on this mindset and it's impact on violence, misogyny and homophobia in hardcore as well. Some perpetrated by "jocks" some by those "in the scene " but in the end there way of being was/is quite similar. This was not only with the fans but with some bands as well. It's for me the major reason I stopped listening to HC and moved away from the scene and why I prefer "emocore"/screamo/emo to most straight up older HC. Thankfully the majority of the new breed of HC bands are much more emotional and a whole lot less angry and attracted to violence for the sake of violence. Plus with so many female voices in the scene now there is a whole new perspective Thankfully.

Thanks for all you do for the community and us fans of your music and writing.

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Auzin Ahmadi's avatar

Oh wow I needed to read this today -- also SO excited for Thursday's interview, the new Gouge Away album is incredible!!

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