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A few things come to mind. Firstly that more and more I am appreciated of your skills as an interviewer. I feel like growing up in the early 2000s especially, I watched my favorite artists get asked vapid, shallow, sometimes increadibly invasive or inappropriate questions and they were expected to just smile along a d answer. So I'm really appreciating that you are making space for deep, nuanced conversations without the cheap tricks.

Secondly, I really appreciate Kat's vulnerability even as she is standing up for herself. I've said it in these comments before, but I think a lot about and have a lot of anger for how performers (across disaplines) are treated. There is a difference between having to work hard and legitimately suffering for your art and so much of that suffering could be avoided, with things like more financial support and more conversations about how society generally treats fame. I'm transgender, but I spent my teens and early 20s as a girl in alt spaces mostly full of men and it makes you feel like an imposter and a piece of meat, even though it's where you want to be. I cannot imagine that feeling magnified by notoriety at Kat's level. So I'm really happy to see her speaking up for herself, and happy to see just how many people are in the scene today who aren't strait white men.

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Can't add any more, but just echoing this comment. As always, amazing interview.

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What wanted to start off which first I was reading about the architect that came up with the concept of the shopping mall. He was a Austrian architect named victor gruen who moved to the United States. And what he realized that Americans spend too much time in their cars so he wanted to bring a Europeanization to America. ( in 2023 the ten biggest shopping malls are no longer located in America but in Asian countries) he write a book entitled “the heart of the city” Walt Disney of all people was a fan of this book and wanted to create a city of the future without cars called Epcot. Which is stands the experimental prototype city of tomorrow. Disney died during the planning of Epcot and it was turned into a theme park. Just so weird mall history. As nardwuar who say, “keeping on rocking in the free world.”

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